Would you rather get ripped off or just die?


Holy crap!


Here’s a link from the LA times.


When I saw the title to this, at first I thought it was a joke: “Mandate minus price controls may increase healthcare costs”, it says.


May increase healthcare costs? May? Are you kidding me?


The healthcare companies have been denying care and raising costs for years and that’s why we have pills that cost hundreds of dollars each and health care insurance that could easily cost more than a family even makes in a year.


And they think those prices might rise? Those prices are going to keep on rising until someone or something stops them. That’s all there is to it. Private companies are not people, and they don’t do nice things out of the goodness of their hearts; they’re companies, and their sole reason for being is profit. If there’s a way to make more profit, they’re going to do it.


(It never ceases to amaze me that people who will believe that humans are sinful creatures will believe that a corporation, composed of sinful humans, is somehow infallible and that we should let them run everything.)


I thought it was bad enough when Obama dismissed a single-payer health care program right from the beginning. Now it’s sounding like there may not even be any public option in the end at all. Oh, great. 


Then Obama tells us we might all have to buy into a system, similar to being required to buy auto insurance. What?! Am I the only one who remembers that during the campaign, Obama said making people buy into a system was a bad idea? Hillary was for it and he was agin it. Made me want to vote for him. And now he goes back on it. Nice.


Well, I say to myself, surely they’ll get something done, right? Maybe they’ll at least force the health insurance companies to lower their prices?


And now it looks like the answer to that one is no. 


Sooooo……why are we even bothering to debate this then? We’re not going to create a national system…we’re not going to provide a public option…we’re going to make people buy into it or else…and we’re not going to even try to make them lower their durn prices? 


Maybe we would be better off with the status quo! At least right now we’re not being forced to buy insurance from those financial vultures. Here’s a link where this guy mentions how he’s had a heart attack…and now, in addition to being buried in medical bills, we’re going to force him and countless others like him to buy insurance? Good luck with that!


If this health care plan goes through like this, what will probably happen, I’ve read, is that people will be fined, perhaps having some of their money taken out in taxes. Right now a lot of working poor people get a few thousand bucks from their tax return every year, and it really helps out. They’ll probably lose that as punishment for not buying into the system. Great way to help the economy and the poor. 


Right now it seems like if you get sick in America, you have three options. If you’re rich, you can get treated. If you’re not rich, but you have some kind of insurance, you can get treated (maybe), and you might face bankruptcy because of it. It’s amazing to me how unconcerned politicians are about this one. It’s almost as if they think it’s perfectly fine to take everything a family has ever worked for just to pay some inflated medical bills. (Too bad you’re not a bank, huh!)


If you’re poor, you can get the insurance that’s given to the very poor, but it’s the worst level of care available. 


The problem in poor communities is compounded by the fact that doctors and hospitals aren’t motivated to stay there and treat people. High malpractice insurance costs and low reimbursement from the insurers are driving them away. The money is in wealthier places. Here on the Big Island of Hawaii, it’s very difficult to find any doctors taking new patients, regardless of how good their insurance is. 


There’s clinics, and it’s a good thing they’re there, but they’re so overworked that you could get there at 7 in the morning and wait around for hours just to find out if they’ll see you that day or not.


I read somewhere (sorry, don’t remember where) that doctors were also leaving Pennsylvania…at least on the mainland you can drive to another state nearby or something. We’re on an island. For us, it’s take what’s available or scrape together enough money for a plane ticket. 


A lot of people have just given up going to doctors all together. A lot of people have decided to just ignore their health, at least as far as seeing doctors goes. 


If we die, we die. What’s the point in trying to argue with insurance companies or doctors if they’re just going to torture you trying to cure something they might not be able (or willing) to cure? Why stand in line for hours and get stuck with needles? Why not just keep going till you drop?


Who needs a “death panel” when you have capitalism?




2 responses to “Would you rather get ripped off or just die?

  1. ATTENTION!! Congress Has The Votes Needed To Pass A Public Option – TODAY http://bit.ly/TCq7O

    Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential – By jacksmith – Working Class

    Robert Reich explains the pubic option: http://bit.ly/dDYSJ

    Hollywood Supports The Public Option 🙂 http://bit.ly/3XLwPi

    It’s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.

    It’s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!

    It’s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

    It’s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

    It’s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don’t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!

    It’s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It’s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.


    The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.

    At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!

    But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.

    This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

    To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time…is…UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op’s! No Triggers! NO INDIVIDUAL MANDATES! without a Strong public option on day one.

    Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.


    I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.


    I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.

    Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.

    God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

    jacksmith – Working Class

    Things You Can Do To Help NOW! http://www.everydaycitizen.com/2009/09/tired_of_watching_people_die_n.html

    No Triggers! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html

    Triggers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html

    Krugman on heathcare (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)

    Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

    John Garamendi on the Public Option and the Grassroots: http://bit.ly/TJMty

    Howard Dean on the Public Option http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKfW2dUnow&feature=player_embedded

    We’re Number 37! in quality of health care http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4&feature=player_embedded

    Twitter search (#welovethenhs #NHS #hc09 #hcr #healthcar #obama #p2 #topprog #) Check it out.

  2. Awesome blog!

    I thought about starting my own blog too but I’m just too lazy so, I guess Ill just have to keep checking yours out.

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